On this double-header episode from Aftershock, Pipeman sits down with Morgoth (Seven Hours After Violet, producer) and Sorry X for a spirited conversation about the changing landscape of heavy music, the unification of genres, wild festival stories, and their own musical projects. The episode features raw nostalgia from the LA metal and punk scenes, insights on mosh pit culture, production anecdotes, and announcements about upcoming music and collaborations.Main Topics Covered
- Why Morgoth loves attending Aftershock even without playing
- Morgoth's production work for bands performing at the festival
- Betting on breakthrough acts like Holy Water and Seven Hours After Violet
- Sorry X's collaboration with Drowning Pool and covering "Bodies"
- Hilarious stories from festival life (including William Shatner’s heavy metal project)
- Genre fusion at American rock festivals and the influence of acts like $uicideboy$
- The enduring legacy and business model of Insane Clown Posse
- Legendary mosh pit stories from the '80s to present
- The evolution and cultural crossover between metal, punk, and hardcore
- Barriers between genre communities and how today’s scene is more inclusive
- Upcoming releases and projects from both Sorry X and Morgoth
Key Discussions & StoriesFestival Life & Community
- Morgoth shares why Aftershock is a favorite for him: convenience, family roots in Sacramento, staying with his parents, and seeing acts he’s produced or written for in action 00:51.
- Holy Watr, produced by Morgoth, is tipped as a breakout band: “If I could buy stock in a band, it’d be Holy Watr. Patrick's a star…” 01:34.
- Pipeman reveals his pick for next big act: Seven Hours After Violet 01:54.
Collaboration Stories
- Sorry X recounts how a cover of “Bodies” led to collaboration with Drowning Pool, building from an Instagram cover into a full feature with guitar solos 03:01.
- Morgoth details production collaborations, including ongoing work with Polyphia (with Kanye West’s Sunday Service Gospel Choir), new material for Holy Water, and the return of Goliath, his OG hardcore band 29:41, 30:03, 31:07.
Wild Festival Tales
- Outrageous story about William Shatner (Captain Kirk) starting a heavy metal band, The Fuckers, at 95, and what it would be like for him to perform “Bodies” or Metallica covers 03:34.
- Stories of getting doused with water by Fred Durst during Limp Bizkit’s headline and stage experiences at major festivals 08:24.
- Iconic mosh pit memories and conversation about the best and most dangerous pits—from Hellfest to Grasspop to Limp Bizkit and Korn’s wild South American shows 09:49, 11:08.
Genre Fusion & Scene Reflections
- Discussion on the modern festival model embracing genre fusion, hip-hop and metal on same bills, and the role of acts like $uicideboy$ in breaking down barriers 06:08.
- The legacy and unique “universe” built by Insane Clown Posse as a model of DIY success 07:25.
- Nostalgia from Pipeman on the original crossover days: Slayer’s and Metallica’s first shows, LA’s infamous venues, and blending the punk/metal scenes 14:57, 15:41.
- Reflections on the divisive ‘80s subcultures, gatekeeping, and how things have changed with the internet—“People who like only one type of music are weird” 20:47.
Recent & Upcoming Projects
- Sorry X announces her debut album “Exes,” upcoming deluxe edition, and show dates (including a Halloween party and playing with Eyes Set to Kill in December). Merch is available at sorryxmusic.com25:57, 26:09.
- Morgoth teases a finished EP from Seven Hours After Violet (SHAV), more releases in the pipeline, and a Polyphia feature with Kanye West’s Sunday Service Gospel Choir dropping soon 28:53, 30:03.
- Revival of his early hardcore band Goliath, with a new single out October 30th 31:07.
Notable Quotes
- “If I could bet on a band being huge within the next two years… I’d buy stock in Holy Watr.” — Morgoth 01:34
- “Have you heard the Bodies cover with Migos? One of the sickest hip-hop metal fusions I’ve ever heard.” — Morgoth 05:13
- “If you want to solve all the world’s problems, music.” — Pipeman 06:02
- “All the biggest metal has some inkling of a mixture of hardcore in it; you can’t separate them.” — Morgoth 19:56
- “People who just like one type of music, I find, are weird.” — Morgoth 20:48
- “Metalcore is now—and has been—the biggest subgenre of heavy music for 20-plus years at this point.” — Morgoth 25:00
Resources & Links Mentioned
- Sorry X’s merch & music (ships her own merch, debut album "Exes")
- Seven Hours After Violet (SHAV): new EP coming soon, follow Morgoth Beats for updates
- Polyphia’s upcoming album (features Morgoth-produced track with Kanye West’s Sunday Service Gospel Choir, releases Oct 23rd)
- Goliath’s new single: October 30th release
- Cammi Keough and Cami Cale (collaborators/neighbors)
- Other acts referenced: Holy Water, Drowning Pool, Limp Bizkit, $uicideboy$, Turnstile, Cro-Mags, Agnostic Front, ICP, Cypress Hill, Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Korn, Metallica, Slayer, Possessed, Savage Grace
Connect with Guests
- Sorry X: Instagram (@sorryxmusic on all platforms)
- Morgoth (Seven Hours After Violet, Morgoth Beats): Instagram
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